Tom P levels for CCLP1
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Quote:I'm guessing it fared well in CCLP3 for the same reason as "Which One Next?", namely, competitive players thought of it as an optimization challenge (which I fail to see the point of if the optimal route was soon computed using a TSP solver, but that is a different topic). Which means that it might not fare the same in CCLP1 since you changed the clock to be untimed.



IMO, other than the toggle walls, this level bears no similarity to Toggle Bust whatsoever.



Surely, that's not necessary / always wanted in CCLP1, is it? ... Is it??



- Madhav.


Weird double quote formatting, but whatever...

I don't like Which One Next?
. Even as an optimization challenge I don't find it interesting. Rainbow Door Key
might be more fun to optimize, if not for all the boosting in the middle (through the force floors, not just on the edges). As it is, I don't see why there is an extra blue key in ms but not in lynx, even if there are supposed to be extra keys in the level. My main gripe with the level is that there is so much hidden information that a map is the best way to approach the level. (Not to say I hate all hidden information, but that is a different topic.)

For me, Green Clear
and Toggle Bust
feel very similar to play. Both have a very specific route to go through. I like the structure of the maze in the first one more, and there are more puzzle elements there too.

Maybe you're right in saying a twist is not always needed, but I don't see you creating a level like Locked Up
. I don't know what it needs to make it work for me, but right now it feels like any of the dozens of blocks-into-water levels out there. Of course, thinking in CCLP1 terms, there might be room for one or so of these, so who knows?

-Miika


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Tom P levels for CCLP1 - by AdrenalinDragon - 27-Feb-2012, 7:03 AM
Tom P levels for CCLP1 - by rockdet - 27-Feb-2012, 1:05 PM
Tom P levels for CCLP1 - by AdrenalinDragon - 28-Feb-2012, 5:37 PM
Tom P levels for CCLP1 - by quiznos00 - 28-Feb-2012, 9:31 PM
Tom P levels for CCLP1 - by rockdet - 28-Feb-2012, 11:04 PM
Tom P levels for CCLP1 - by AdrenalinDragon - 18-Mar-2012, 1:21 PM
Tom P levels for CCLP1 - by jblewis - 26-Mar-2012, 10:46 AM
Tom P levels for CCLP1 - by AdrenalinDragon - 26-Mar-2012, 11:00 AM
Tom P levels for CCLP1 - by jblewis - 26-Mar-2012, 12:52 PM
Tom P levels for CCLP1 - by AdrenalinDragon - 26-Mar-2012, 1:44 PM
Tom P levels for CCLP1 - by jblewis - 26-Mar-2012, 3:03 PM
Tom P levels for CCLP1 - by IceyLava108 - 26-Mar-2012, 7:05 PM
Tom P levels for CCLP1 - by jblewis - 26-Mar-2012, 7:13 PM
Tom P levels for CCLP1 - by AdrenalinDragon - 27-Mar-2012, 11:02 AM
Tom P levels for CCLP1 - by Flareon350 - 27-Mar-2012, 4:46 PM
Tom P levels for CCLP1 - by jblewis - 27-Mar-2012, 5:03 PM
Tom P levels for CCLP1 - by AdrenalinDragon - 27-Mar-2012, 5:12 PM
Tom P levels for CCLP1 - by geodave - 28-Mar-2012, 7:34 PM
Tom P levels for CCLP1 - by BitBuster - 29-Mar-2012, 7:44 PM
Tom P levels for CCLP1 - by IceyLava108 - 29-Mar-2012, 9:14 PM
Tom P levels for CCLP1 - by jblewis - 29-Mar-2012, 9:18 PM
Tom P levels for CCLP1 - by IceyLava108 - 29-Mar-2012, 9:45 PM
Tom P levels for CCLP1 - by geodave - 29-Mar-2012, 9:46 PM
Tom P levels for CCLP1 - by IceyLava108 - 29-Mar-2012, 9:50 PM
Tom P levels for CCLP1 - by geodave - 29-Mar-2012, 10:28 PM
Tom P levels for CCLP1 - by BitBuster - 30-Mar-2012, 8:56 AM
Tom P levels for CCLP1 - by jblewis - 30-Mar-2012, 11:34 AM
Tom P levels for CCLP1 - by BitBuster - 30-Mar-2012, 11:46 AM
Tom P levels for CCLP1 - by geodave - 30-Mar-2012, 12:30 PM
Tom P levels for CCLP1 - by AdrenalinDragon - 30-Mar-2012, 12:58 PM
Tom P levels for CCLP1 - by BitBuster - 30-Mar-2012, 2:12 PM
Tom P levels for CCLP1 - by IceyLava108 - 30-Mar-2012, 5:15 PM
Tom P levels for CCLP1 - by jblewis - 30-Mar-2012, 5:22 PM
Tom P levels for CCLP1 - by IceyLava108 - 30-Mar-2012, 6:14 PM
Tom P levels for CCLP1 - by jblewis - 30-Mar-2012, 10:03 PM
Tom P levels for CCLP1 - by IceyLava108 - 30-Mar-2012, 10:55 PM
Tom P levels for CCLP1 - by AdrenalinDragon - 31-Mar-2012, 2:18 PM
Tom P levels for CCLP1 - by jblewis - 31-Mar-2012, 2:19 PM
Tom P levels for CCLP1 - by IceyLava108 - 31-Mar-2012, 3:56 PM
Tom P levels for CCLP1 - by jblewis - 31-Mar-2012, 4:02 PM
Tom P levels for CCLP1 - by IceyLava108 - 31-Mar-2012, 4:21 PM
Tom P levels for CCLP1 - by geodave - 01-Apr-2012, 8:06 AM
Tom P levels for CCLP1 - by Flareon350 - 01-Apr-2012, 4:39 PM
Tom P levels for CCLP1 - by IceyLava108 - 01-Apr-2012, 11:52 PM
Tom P levels for CCLP1 - by BitBuster - 02-Apr-2012, 8:26 AM
Tom P levels for CCLP1 - by jblewis - 02-Apr-2012, 11:59 AM
Tom P levels for CCLP1 - by BitBuster - 02-Apr-2012, 12:58 PM
Tom P levels for CCLP1 - by Flareon350 - 02-Apr-2012, 6:49 PM
Tom P levels for CCLP1 - by BitBuster - 02-Apr-2012, 7:28 PM
Tom P levels for CCLP1 - by Flareon350 - 02-Apr-2012, 7:32 PM
Tom P levels for CCLP1 - by IceyLava108 - 02-Apr-2012, 7:57 PM
Tom P levels for CCLP1 - by Flareon350 - 02-Apr-2012, 8:06 PM
Tom P levels for CCLP1 - by BitBuster - 03-Apr-2012, 8:45 AM
Tom P levels for CCLP1 - by IceyLava108 - 03-Apr-2012, 6:48 PM
Tom P levels for CCLP1 - by geodave - 03-Apr-2012, 9:23 PM
Tom P levels for CCLP1 - by jblewis - 03-Apr-2012, 9:32 PM
Tom P levels for CCLP1 - by IceyLava108 - 03-Apr-2012, 11:22 PM
Tom P levels for CCLP1 - by jblewis - 04-Apr-2012, 10:12 AM
Tom P levels for CCLP1 - by mathgrant - 05-Apr-2012, 12:43 PM
Tom P levels for CCLP1 - by AdrenalinDragon - 05-Apr-2012, 2:51 PM
Tom P levels for CCLP1 - by Ida - 08-Apr-2012, 9:42 AM
Tom P levels for CCLP1 - by geodave - 08-Apr-2012, 9:47 PM
Tom P levels for CCLP1 - by jblewis - 08-Apr-2012, 10:33 PM
Tom P levels for CCLP1 - by tensorpudding - 08-Apr-2012, 11:02 PM
Tom P levels for CCLP1 - by jblewis - 09-Apr-2012, 6:12 AM
Tom P levels for CCLP1 - by BitBuster - 11-Apr-2012, 3:37 PM
Tom P levels for CCLP1 - by tensorpudding - 11-Apr-2012, 4:23 PM
Tom P levels for CCLP1 - by IceyLava108 - 15-Apr-2012, 4:41 PM
Tom P levels for CCLP1 - by AdrenalinDragon - 16-Apr-2012, 4:24 AM
Tom P levels for CCLP1 - by IceyLava108 - 16-Apr-2012, 8:49 PM
Tom P levels for CCLP1 - by AdrenalinDragon - 04-Jul-2012, 10:24 AM
Tom P levels for CCLP1 - by Michael - 04-Jul-2012, 4:51 PM
Tom P levels for CCLP1 - by AdrenalinDragon - 04-Jul-2012, 5:42 PM
Tom P levels for CCLP1 - by Michael - 04-Jul-2012, 10:52 PM
Tom P levels for CCLP1 - by AdrenalinDragon - 05-Jul-2012, 6:36 AM
Tom P levels for CCLP1 - by Michael - 06-Jul-2012, 10:40 PM
Tom P levels for CCLP1 - by IceyLava108 - 07-Jul-2012, 1:18 AM
Tom P levels for CCLP1 - by M11k4 - 01-Aug-2012, 10:49 AM
Tom P levels for CCLP1 - by AdrenalinDragon - 10-Aug-2012, 4:46 PM
Tom P levels for CCLP1 - by KeyboardWielder - 12-Aug-2012, 1:31 AM
Tom P levels for CCLP1 - by M11k4 - 30-Aug-2012, 5:30 AM
Tom P levels for CCLP1 - by M11k4 - 30-Aug-2012, 5:47 AM
Tom P levels for CCLP1 - by Sparkman - 18-Sep-2012, 8:38 AM
Tom P levels for CCLP1 - by M11k4 - 06-Dec-2012, 5:58 PM
Tom P levels for CCLP1 - by AdrenalinDragon - 07-Dec-2012, 5:24 PM

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