CCLP1 Voting Pack News and Releases
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Quote:1) If I see a level that looks like it's meant to be a lesson level (meaning it has a title and hint that introduce a basic concept) but I think it's too difficult to be a lesson level, but it would make a great teens-20s level, should I rate it for a teens-20s slot? (According to your instructions, I think the answer should be "yes".) And if the level makes it in and is deemed too difficult for a lesson level, will its hint and/or name be removed or changed so it isn't redundant by that point in the set? (That's the only reason I am concerned about treating it as a post-lesson level while voting.)


Yes, that is correct. Slight smile

Quote:2) What do I do if I encounter a level that has (IMHO) one glaring poorly designed or unfair spot late into the level that makes it a One star or Star Star level, BUT that one flaw is easily fixable and changing it would make the level Star Star Star Star or Star Star Star Star Star worthy? (Sort of kind of just exactly like Sphinx.) Is this topic the right place to make fix suggestions for levels like this? Ordinarily, I might try to contact the designer, but since the levels in the packs are anonymous and I don't know what set the level in question comes from....


I've been torn about what we should do in case we have another Sphinx-like issue - on one hand, I feel like these issues deserve to be addressed since the levels have made it this far, but on the other hand, I also want to avoid reuploading voting packs for people to download and have to contend with multiple versions of the same level floating around. I think I've got a solution, though. So far, I've been playing - and solving - every level in each of the packs before they are released publicly. As part of this process, I can contact a designer in case I find anything of this sort and deal with it before the public release of the pack. (There's already one level in the next pack to be released that could fit into this category.) If anyone has any further suggestions for the level after it's released in the voting pack, they can make them publicly on CCZone and state that their rating is being submitted under the condition that the suggestion they're making is considered. Other people can concur if they wish. Then, if the level is inducted into CCLP1, we can address the suggestion before the set's release. On the NG, I've already received a suggestion for a place to provide feedback for levels - and not just in this arena, but also for titles that would need to be changed and what not. I think the best solution is to unlock the voting threads and use them as "suggestion" threads while keeping the overall discussion here. What does everyone think?

Quote:3) If it's not too much trouble, could you please number the levels on the voting pages? As I was playing, I took notes in the form of level numbers and star ratings, but not names, so putting in my votes entails either translating numbers to names using the score screen or very carefully going one at a time down the list trying not to miscount.


Done!

Quote:Just finished playing through Flouncy - score one for finishing university and having needless amounts of free time Smiley.


I'm hoping we can finish most of the voting over the summer for this very reason. Slight smile

Quote:I found #35 (Chip Skate) a very interesting level. It's pointedly obvious what needs to be done to complete the level but that's where the kindness stops. It's so easy to get lost since everything looks the same and you spend so much time sliding. The numerous ice skates that arbitrarily litter the level with almost reckless abandon add to the challenge even further, since you have no idea which pair you should be trying to collect. I ended up making a map, since I wouldn't look in the editor if the level was in the finished article, and finally managed to work out where I was supposed to be going. For these reasons, I'm not sure whether I adore or despise this level, but it intrigued me nonetheless (:


I'll go ahead and confess: I designed this one. Slight smile And it is untimed for this very reason. I didn't know what people would think of it, but I figured it would be one of those Marmite levels that people either really loved or really despised. The original impetus for creating it was to see just how interesting I could make an ice maze without turning it into some sort of itemswapper. (Not to mention that I wanted to use Madhav's title from the title bank on the ChipWiki!) At first, I laid out all the paths, then I added the skates and fleshed everything else out.

On a different note, I'd like to propose an idea for future pack releases. In the past, we had intended (and proposed) to release "waves" of packs (of three or four each) and make the releases contingent on participation with the current "wave." But, here's a potentially better idea: why not set a goal for number of voters who have voted on every level of a pack and release a new one when we reach that goal? For example, right now, we've got eight voters who have completed - or almost completed - Cardboard (seven for Shampoo, six for Flouncy, and four for Giraffe). How about releasing the next pack when ten people complete Cardboard? We can continue doing this until all 33 packs are released, and it can help ensure that each pack is receiving adequate consideration while keeping the pressure off everyone to complete every level - we do have more than ten voters, after all - and people who quickly complete the levels and vote don't have to wait for ten people to finish all four packs in the current "wave." I understand this might make it a bit easier for the packs to be "ordered," but they're already listed in order of release date in the download section, and if the current threads in the voting section are unlocked and turned into suggestion threads with active posting, the polls will get mixed up anyway. By the time all 33 packs are released, we can keep voting open for as long as we need to after that, which will be somewhat dependent on just how more some people may want to participate.


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CCLP1 Voting Pack News and Releases - by jblewis - 02-Jun-2013, 8:04 AM
CCLP1 Voting Pack News and Releases - by ajmiam - 02-Jun-2013, 3:02 PM
CCLP1 Voting Pack News and Releases - by jblewis - 02-Jun-2013, 9:29 PM
CCLP1 Voting Pack News and Releases - by jblewis - 03-Jun-2013, 1:48 PM
CCLP1 Voting Pack News and Releases - by jblewis - 03-Jun-2013, 8:09 PM
CCLP1 Voting Pack News and Releases - by jblewis - 03-Jun-2013, 9:00 PM
CCLP1 Voting Pack News and Releases - by Bowman - 03-Jun-2013, 9:14 PM
CCLP1 Voting Pack News and Releases - by Bowman - 03-Jun-2013, 9:31 PM
CCLP1 Voting Pack News and Releases - by Bowman - 03-Jun-2013, 10:41 PM
CCLP1 Voting Pack News and Releases - by jblewis - 03-Jun-2013, 10:54 PM
CCLP1 Voting Pack News and Releases - by ajmiam - 04-Jun-2013, 12:26 AM
CCLP1 Voting Pack News and Releases - by jblewis - 04-Jun-2013, 12:43 AM
CCLP1 Voting Pack News and Releases - by Bowman - 04-Jun-2013, 9:24 PM
CCLP1 Voting Pack News and Releases - by jblewis - 05-Jun-2013, 12:04 AM
CCLP1 Voting Pack News and Releases - by jblewis - 05-Jun-2013, 10:39 AM
CCLP1 Voting Pack News and Releases - by Bowman - 05-Jun-2013, 4:25 PM
CCLP1 Voting Pack News and Releases - by jblewis - 06-Jun-2013, 9:58 AM
CCLP1 Voting Pack News and Releases - by Bowman - 06-Jun-2013, 10:48 AM
CCLP1 Voting Pack News and Releases - by jblewis - 06-Jun-2013, 1:24 PM
CCLP1 Voting Pack News and Releases - by Markus - 06-Jun-2013, 3:04 PM
CCLP1 Voting Pack News and Releases - by jblewis - 06-Jun-2013, 3:15 PM
CCLP1 Voting Pack News and Releases - by M11k4 - 07-Jun-2013, 12:35 AM
CCLP1 Voting Pack News and Releases - by budugoo - 07-Jun-2013, 1:10 AM
CCLP1 Voting Pack News and Releases - by jblewis - 07-Jun-2013, 11:40 PM
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CCLP1 Voting Pack News and Releases - by jblewis - 10-Jun-2013, 2:19 PM
CCLP1 Voting Pack News and Releases - by mobius - 10-Jun-2013, 7:19 PM
CCLP1 Voting Pack News and Releases - by jblewis - 12-Jun-2013, 1:25 PM
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CCLP1 Voting Pack News and Releases - by jblewis - 22-Jun-2013, 12:16 AM
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CCLP1 Voting Pack News and Releases - by jblewis - 25-Jun-2013, 12:46 PM
CCLP1 Voting Pack News and Releases - by ajmiam - 25-Jun-2013, 11:47 PM
CCLP1 Voting Pack News and Releases - by jblewis - 28-Jun-2013, 5:07 PM
CCLP1 Voting Pack News and Releases - by jblewis - 28-Jun-2013, 8:26 PM
CCLP1 Voting Pack News and Releases - by M11k4 - 29-Jun-2013, 10:46 AM
CCLP1 Voting Pack News and Releases - by jblewis - 30-Jun-2013, 12:17 AM
CCLP1 Voting Pack News and Releases - by jblewis - 01-Jul-2013, 2:33 PM
CCLP1 Voting Pack News and Releases - by jblewis - 12-Jul-2013, 12:10 AM
CCLP1 Voting Pack News and Releases - by jblewis - 12-Jul-2013, 9:40 PM
CCLP1 Voting Pack News and Releases - by mobius - 25-Jul-2013, 5:40 PM
CCLP1 Voting Pack News and Releases - by CamdenT - 25-Jul-2013, 6:08 PM
CCLP1 Voting Pack News and Releases - by random 8 - 25-Jul-2013, 6:41 PM
CCLP1 Voting Pack News and Releases - by jblewis - 25-Jul-2013, 9:04 PM
CCLP1 Voting Pack News and Releases - by mobius - 20-Aug-2013, 7:38 PM
CCLP1 Voting Pack News and Releases - by jblewis - 20-Aug-2013, 7:51 PM
CCLP1 Voting Pack News and Releases - by mobius - 28-Aug-2013, 4:56 PM
CCLP1 Voting Pack News and Releases - by jblewis - 28-Aug-2013, 5:00 PM
CCLP1 Voting Pack News and Releases - by Syzygy - 14-Sep-2013, 9:08 AM
CCLP1 Voting Pack News and Releases - by mobius - 14-Sep-2013, 9:40 AM
CCLP1 Voting Pack News and Releases - by jblewis - 24-Nov-2013, 10:11 AM
CCLP1 Voting Pack News and Releases - by jbdude55 - 24-Nov-2013, 1:19 PM
CCLP1 Voting Pack News and Releases - by jblewis - 31-Dec-2013, 1:00 PM
CCLP1 Voting Pack News and Releases - by Ida - 01-Jan-2014, 5:15 AM
CCLP1 Voting Pack News and Releases - by mobius - 01-Jan-2014, 8:35 PM
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