Are You Religious?

[Phazite]

I'm not trying to disprove logic. I'm just saying that if we're saying that we "know" A or B because of logic, that presupposes that our system of logic is accurate/true/whatever.



But yeah, I suppose proving that it is inconsistent would show that it's flawed...I don't know, maybe I'm walking right into a paradox or contradiction here.

It would presuppose that, yes. Now, if you have your internally consistent system of logic, you can see how it compares with the world we observe. Perhaps it will accurately describe reality in some cases and not in others.

After all, even Moses didn't write the end of Deueteronomy, where Moses dies.

There is evidence that multiple authors wrote not just Deueteronomy, but all of the books. The bible seems to me to be a big game of telephone.

I'm a firm believer that myth doesn't come from nowhere. Do I think that Noah literally collected two of each species (and seven pairs of some)? Maybe. Is it possible that this is metaphorical? Yes. Did SOMETHING catastrophic happen the past involving a flood. PROBABLY.

Or, knowing that floods happen (and cause destruction), all it could have taken to start this story is the imagination of not just any ordinary flood, but a great floor that covered the whole world. No grand catastrophy required.

Well, I know it's not the orthodox view -- but is it any different than the way scientist date very old things?

Person: How old is this thing?

Scientist: Well, we can date it using scientific methods. First, can you tell me how old it is?

Person: WHAT??

Scientist: Well I have to know how old it is to determine which method to use to tell how old it is.

Person: That's scientific?

Scientist: Of course!

So, as you can see, we don't know anything about anything.

It's not like that. If you know an approximate age, which you must first determine using other means, you can choose the best radiometeric clock to use to find a more accurate date.

Here's one article on it, just for fun:

http://www.av1611.org/666/barcode.html

Until it's on my hand or forehead, I'm not worried.

I don't find number patterns to be very convincing, considering the affinity of our brains for patterns. You could find a number of other patterns and numbers in a barcode, or in anything really. You only see it as significant because the number 666 means something to you. What else could you find that number in?