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| CCTools 3.0 |
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Posted by: Zrax - 19-Nov-2020, 2:48 PM - Forum: Programs and Editors
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After many years of not working on anything CCTools related, I've finally come back and created a 3.0 release!
Some of the major changes include:
- A new tool, CC2Edit is included for Chip's Challenge 2 map and script editing.
- CCHack has been given the same rewrite treatment that the rest of the tools got for 2.0. This means its now compatible with macOS and Linux, has a complete UI redesign, and a several new and improved features.
- Tab management in CCEdit and CC2Edit has been reworked to be more sane and easier to use.
- CCEdit Playtesting and CCPlay now support running CHIPS.EXE on 64-bit Windows platforms via WineVDM. CCPlay also now has better support for Java-based tools such as SuperCC and CCCreator.
- CCEdit's Undo and Redo now work across the whole levelset.
- A large variety of fixes, UI enhancements, etc. You can see a more detailed list of changes and additions at the CCTools changelog.
You can download the latest release at https://cctools.zrax.net/download.html. Please send any feedback, bugs, feature requests, etc. to me either here or on github (https://github.com/zrax/cctools).
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| Competitive CC1? |
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Posted by: JasonDREWlo - 18-Nov-2020, 11:01 PM - Forum: General Discussion
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Hi everyone. I posted in the discord about this but wanted to share a potential idea of a competitive CC1 league/tournament, if there is enough interest.
The concept:
* Two players go head to head playing MSCC with a random assortment of CC1 levels
* Whoever finishes the most levels in the allotted amount of time is the winner
* Players are allowed any number of "skips" in case a level takes too long or is too hard to figure out
* Both players share their screens while playing and is either recorded or streamed for a "competitive" feel
Rules (Totally open to change):
* 15 minutes, 10 levels in a set
* If someone manages to finish them all before the time, they are automatically the winner.
* If both players have the same score at the end of the time, players continue to play through levels until someone wins another level.
Progress:
* https://github.com/Drewroen/randomCC1Creator
* Still a little buggy, but this takes all the levels from GliderBot and makes a random level set out of the levels that can then be shared to competitors.
* It also sets all the passwords to AAAA so that unlimited skips are easy.
What are people's thoughts on this? Would anyone be willing to do a trial run of this? I would also be willing to stream the tournament/league/something else. Let me know what you're thinking!
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| Will C-S's scores |
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Posted by: Calica - 04-Nov-2020, 1:02 AM - Forum: High Scores
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Chips Challenge 2
1: 0 | 1002 (LESSON 1)
2: 0 | 1000 (ALL ICE)
3: 0 | 1500 (KEY MANIA)
4: 14 | 2140 (ALL SHOOK UP)
5: 182 | 4320 (DOWN AND OUT)
6: 158 | 4642 (DOOR WAYS)
7: 156 | 9140 (TURTLE BLOCKS)
8: 136 | 5360 (SWIVELS)
9: 0 | 4500 (LESSON 2)
10: 103 | 6030 (ALONE)
11: 3 | 6740 (TUMBLERS)
12: 140 | 7400 (FORCE PERIMETER)
13: 86 | 7360 (SEVEN UP)
14: 3 | 7030 (RUN-AROUND)
15: 83 | 8330 (WATCH YOUR STEP)
16: 210 | 10100 (SEA TURTLES)
17: 188 | 10380 (FROZEN)
18: 80 | 9800 (NO TURNING BACK)
19: 0 | 9500 (LESSON 3)
20: 76 | 10760 (COBBLER)
21: 177 | 12270 (EIGHT WAYS)
22: 234 | 13340 (MIND GAME)
23: 285 | 15350 (TRICKED YA!)
24: 72 | 12720 (JAY WALKER)
25: 232 | 17120 (TRIATHLON)
26: 173 | 14850 (CHAMBER BOMB)
27: 89 | 14390 (CLIMBING)
28: 80 | 15800 (SAPPER DO)
29: 0 | 14500 (LESSON 4)
30: 83 | 15830 (INLAY)
31: 81 | 16310 (ICE DANCING)
32: 166 | 17660 (REVELATIONS)
33: 157 | 18070 (IDENTITY CRISIS)
34: 111 | 18110 (GLOBS)
35: 34 | 17840 (CHIPS?)
36: 74 | 18740 (SPRING MINES)
37: 107 | 19570 (HOTKEYS)
38: 87 | 19870 (QUICK TIME)
39: 7 | 19570 (QUICK TIME II)
40: 14 | 20140 (QUICK TIME III)
41: 89 | 21390 (FREEZE FRAME)
42: 11 | 21110 (YOU MUST BE JOKING)
43: 85 | 22350 (RETICULATING SPLINES)
44: 202 | 25020 (SILO BOMBER)
45: 105 | 23550 (MIDDLE SCHOOL)
46: 364 | 26640 (LONG LOST FRIEND)
47: 160 | 25100 (DESERT OASIS)
48: 110 | 25100 (TRIAL OF ELEMENTS)
49: 126 | 25760 (CAITLYN'S MAZE)
50: 0 | 25000 (LESSON 5)
51: 140 | 26900 (MAZES)
52: 171 | 31930 (CONFUSION)
53: 7 | 26570 (QUICKCHIP)
54: 44 | 27440 (SAUCE FOR THE GOOSE)
55: 68 | 28180 (T-N-T TIME)
56: 167 | 30670 (QUICK THINKING)
57: 415 | 32650 (MONTY HAUL)
58: 46 | 37460 (GOLD RUSH)
59: 362 | 33120 (TRIAL AND ERROR?)
60: 0 | 30050 (LESSON 6)
61: 92 | 32420 (FEEDING TIME)
62: 25 | 31250 (GRAB BAG)
63: 146 | 32960 (DISCIPLE)
64: 77 | 33170 (PRACTICE)
65: 142 | 33920 (CHIP HIMSELF)
66: 14 | 33140 (ELECTRIC TRAP)
67: 195 | 35450 (GHOST TRAP)
68: 231 | 36310 (LIGHTS OUT)
69: 243 | 36930 (LOOKALIKE)
70: 39 | 35390 (RAIL BOWLING)
71: 0 | 35500 (LESSON 7)
72: 229 | 38790 (ON AND OFF)
73: 28 | 36780 (GHOST BRIDGE)
74: 53 | 37530 (MUSH)
75: 43 | 38030 (DRESS CODE)
76: 5 | 38050 (THAW)
77: 172 | 40230 (THE ROVER ROOM)
78: 16 | 39160 (STRICT PROCESS)
79: 161 | 42110 (ONION)
80: 124 | 42240 (CHIP PALACE)
81: 204 | 42540 (CAMPFIRES)
82: 33 | 41330 (AVALANCHE)
83: 205 | 43550 (DOUBLE DARE)
84: 207 | 46170 (OFF KEY)
85: 4 | 42540 (SCRAMBLED EGGS)
86: 19 | 43190 (TANK HELP)
87: 187 | 45678 (X MARKS THE SPOT)
88: 308 | 47580 (ESCAPE)
89: 11 | 44610 (CLOSET)
90: 71 | 45710 (EVIL TWIN)
91: 31 | 45810 (MONSTER RACE)
92: 170 | 48700 (TRIPWIRES)
93: 21 | 46710 (APARTMENTS)
94: 222 | 50360 (DECISIONS)
95: 44 | 50160 (OUROBOROS)
96: 1 | 48110 (EASY?)
97: 103 | 49530 (THINK FAST)
98: 183 | 50830 (SIBLING RIVALRY)
99: 0 | 49500 (BINARY)
100: 0 | 54000 (CRAZY)
101: 106 | 51560 (TANK BLOCKER)
102: 255 | 54550 (OBSTACLES)
103: 59 | 52090 (RUNWAY)
104: 221 | 54210 (PIECES OF EIGHT)
105: 107 | 53570 (ALL-IN-ONE)
106: 176 | 54760 (MAZE OF THE OBEYOR)
107: 34 | 53840 (WING AND A PRAYER)
108: 313 | 57130 (REPAER MIRG)
109: 105 | 55550 (SAY "CHEESE")
110: 102 | 56020 (FLEA MARKET)
111: 38 | 55880 (SDRAWKCAB)
112: 1 | 56010 (BOWL TO FREEDOM)
113: 54 | 57040 (TEETH ATTACK)
114: 36 | 58360 (IN THE LONG RUN)
115: 335 | 61150 (DOUBLE TROUBLE)
116: 83 | 58830 (GHOSTBOMBS)
117: 145 | 59950 (ROOM #9)
118: 159 | 60590 (SHIP AHOY)
119: 60 | 60100 (GHOST)
120: 218 | 62180 (FOURSOME)
122: 531 | 66310 (FIRE AND ICE)
123: 24 | 61740 (CHAOSLANDS)
124: 4 | 62040 (YELLOW BRICK ROAD)
125: 35 | 62850 (WOLFPACK)
126: 18 | 63180 (ICE THREAT)
127: 48 | 63980 (BOMBER MAZE)
130: 35 | 66350 (NONSENSE)
131: 229 | 67790 (JETLINE)
132: 206 | 68060 (BREAKING IN)
133: 185 | 68350 (PANIC CHIP)
134: 71 | 67710 (RE:THINK)
135: 271 | 70230 (CLUELESS)
136: 260 | 70600 (BIG HOUSE)
137: 27 | 68770 (ON THE RUN)
138: 160 | 70600 (CONSTRUCTION ZONE)
139: 78 | 70280 (RE:THINK II)
142: 10 | 71100 (FISH AND CHIPS)
145: 243 | 74930 (TURNING POINT)
146: 12 | 73120 (BARRICADE BRIGADE)
151: 65 | 77150 (MINEFIELD)
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| Need Help with CC2LP1 |
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Posted by: Bowman - 03-Nov-2020, 10:03 PM - Forum: Chip's Challenge 2
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I'm stuck on lvl 118: Phantoms and need some help. I got all the way to the end with all the chips, got the ice skates; I need the fire boots and the flippers to get to the exit. I can cycle between fire boots/flippers/skates/hiking boots/foil with the ghost up there but I can only hold 2 items. The problem is I need 3 boots; fire boots/flippers/skates (or fire boots/flippers/hiking boots if I wanted to go out of my way to change to Melinda for some reason) to reach the exit. I have reasoned out all of my moves and they all seem necessary and the level seems impossible. So I'm missing something big. Can anyone give me a hint without giving me the answer?
Thanks,
~Bowman
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| CCBBC Discord Changes |
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Posted by: DeltaCore - 02-Nov-2020, 2:33 AM - Forum: Announcements
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Further to my last thread CCBBC Survey - Summary of Responses - the following is a formal response to the feedback raised in our recent Discord community survey. This response was discussed with the existing Discord moderator team (which includes me, The Architect, ajm-i-am and ruben) prior to this thread being posted.
Introduction
Overall I received 24 responses from a decent mix of our community, the vast majority of which indicating they use the discord server daily. One group of active community participants I felt was underrepresented in the survey responses is our community "veterans" i.e. individuals who have been part of the Chips community for 10+ years.
There were of course many different concerns highlighted in this survey. In spite of this, however, I do think there is a lot of good in this community and my feeling is supported by the many positive remarks collected from this survey alongside the concerns. Further, I certainly don't think our Discord community is toxic by any definition, especially in relation to many other Discord communities I have been apart of over the years. It is from this mindset that we have examined the feedback received in the surveys.
Key areas of focus
I have previously stated that my preference is to apply as few moderator actions (i.e. bans, mutes, deletions, etc.) as possible in my role as mod so as to not create a hostile, draconian environment - a philosophy also held by all of our current mod team. While this remains our preference and ultimate goal, this survey has also made clear to us that the community is looking for mods to step in more often where they previously may have not. Indeed, it is hard to deny even from my standpoint as a mod that the general environment of our Discord server trends a bit on the mean-spirited side, in part because our mod team prefers to not get involved with minor disputes unless necessary.
In light of this, we would like to take the following items raised in the survey away as areas of focus:
- Bullying/lack of respect for others
- Serious or focused discussions being disrupted with memes, jokes and nonsense
- Concerns around the experience of new server members
- The rules being used as a meme
As a subset of points 1 and 2 above, the following were specific points raised in the survey that we'd like to highlight for the community as examples of disrespectful behavior:
- On occasion, a serious discussion will be taking place on the server and running commentary poking fun at the participants takes place in #random. Admittedly there is a fine line here to making some harmless but off-topic commentary in #random rather than derailing the conversation where it is actually happening (this is mostly OK). But we would like to remind everyone that making fun of the participants of a serious discussion in another channel is both not OK and also a deterrent from others joining into conversations in the future. Please be mindful of this.
- Unprompted feedback: The surveys pointed out a tendancy for people to insert themselves into a conversation that does not pertain to them just to state that they dislike the subject of the discussion. This is essentially derailing a conversation. That is not to say you can't maintain an opinion on things, but it is inappropriate to loudly announce your dislike of something/someone at every given opportunity. We know some people like certain tilesets only. We know some people like certain versions of Tile World only. We know some people dislike certain level packs. It is our hope we can move past this compulsion to overstate our opinions as a community and especially make an effort to be objective with newcomers.
If you do not see something you feel is pressing in the list above - don't worry. This is not an exhaustive list, but rather what we identified as the key concerns raised across multiple survey responses and what we felt were the most important points to address with the community as a whole.
Supporting changes
To support our efforts addressing the above areas of focus, the following changes have been implemented effective immediately:
1. The rules have been updated to add a new rule #4:
Quote:#4 - Keep on-topic. Disrupting conversations with low-effort memes is not welcome. See the description in each channel for additional guidelines specific to the channel.
The role of moderators has also been further clarified in the rules as follows:
Quote:Moderators are here to keep things from getting out of hand. They have discretion to make final decisions and will exercise best judgment in removing messages and users who are disrupting the server. You are expected to be familiar with these rules and moderators may apply restrictions, mutes, kicks or bans from channels or the entire server at their discretion without warning if you are not following the rules.
2. Our moderator team will be looking to step in with warnings more often on minor rule violations - especially in channels geared to be more serious. Those who accumulate excessive warnings can expect to be temporarily banned from the server.
To support this, it is important that the rules not be used as a meme going forward. Any quoting of the server rules at other members, whether jokingly or not, will be deleted as a violation of our rule against backseat moderating going forward. This includes messages or reactions stating rule numbers.
The purpose of this shift in moderation policy is not to be draconian, but to help re-calibrate our community away from being a mean-spirited place to be.
3. A new #introductions channel has been created under the Server category. All new user notifications will now appear in this channel and we welcome both CC and Non-CC conversations with newcomers in this channel. It is the expectation going forward that #general be only used for CC-related conversations.
Trolling, memes or any disruptive behavior that would negatively impact a new user's experience will not be allowed in this channel and this will be strictly enforced. This includes ragging on specific CC content, packs, tilesets, etc. just for the sake of making your opinions known - everyone is of course entitled to their own opinions, but it is not appropriate to try to impose these opinions on newcomers as soon as they join. Those disregarding this policy will be barred from participating in the channel at the discretion of the staff.
4. The Non-CC category has been restructured into two categories: Non-CC and Casual Hangout (new category). This is in response both to the surveys and prior #meta discussions.
The Non-CC category going forward is to be considered a serious category. Reactions will be disabled in these channels to help foster on-topic, high-effort discussions. It contains the following channels:- #off-topic (formerly #serious-discussions)
- #gaming
- #programming
- #politics (new channel) - as a specific channel has been created for politics, we would ask that political discussions be kept outside of #off-topic
The Casual Hangout category is a non-serious category and the new rule about keeping on topic is relaxed in these channels. It contains the following channels:- #random (at this time, GliderBot will no longer be able to adjust the channel title and topic - as we adjust to the new channel structure, it is important the channel names and topics reflect the actual function of the channel. This may be revisited in the future)
- #sandbox
This restructuring opens the door for further conversations about adding additional channels or perhaps moving one of the existing channels from one category to another. These discussions are welcome and can be raised in #meta if you have ideas.
It is important to note that #random (and the new Casual Hangout category) is not now and never was intended to be a place where no rules apply. Flooding spam, sexually explicit or otherwise NSFW images, hate speech, gratuitous profanity/shock content, etc. are never permitted. We are predominantly a Chip's server and if you're finding these restrictions oppressive, you always have the options of PMing your friends or using other servers instead.
5. Reactions have been disabled in #meta and #introductions as with the Non-CC category to help foster on-topic, high-effort discussions.
6. There will be some additions to the Discord moderator team to help support the existing team. We are not ready to announce additional mods and server assistants today, but there will be announcements in the coming weeks as these individuals are invited and brought up to speed.
If you indicated wishing to serve the community as a Discord mod or assistant on the survey but do not receive an invitation to join the mod team, do keep in mind that this does not preclude you from ever being invited to join the team in the future. Going forward, as we search for suitable staff members we will be keeping in mind those who expressed interest on the surveys. We may also explore bringing some people on board as mods or assistants in a time-limited trial capacity where appropriate.
If you indicated a desire to serve the community in some other non-mod capacity on your survey, I will be reviewing those requests at a later date and will be in touch then.
Conclusion
The above is not set in stone, however our mod team is committed to at least trialing these changes for an appropriate period of time before changing course. Constructive feedback is welcome here or in #meta, however as always please be mindful of the fact that every community member's voice counts for just one. We recognize that there will be differing sentiments about the changes implemented today and we hope that you'll also recognize no single solution can possibly make everyone happy. We are simply doing our best to fairly balance all the concerns raised without catering directly to specific individuals.
At the end of the day, (warning: cliche ahead) it lies with the community and its individual members to be the change they wish to see. The mod team is here to help support this change, but it will not succeed if the community is not engaged and interested in seeing positive change.
Thanks again to everyone who participated in the survey and also to those who work hard to make this community an excellent place to spend time in their own ways.
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| November 2020 Create Competition - Spooky Scary... Ghosts |
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Posted by: Ihavenoname248 - 29-Oct-2020, 2:35 PM - Forum: Competitions
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It's been too long since the last competition here at all. Time to fix that. A Create Competition is a level design contest where anyone can make a level or levels from a given prompt or theme, which are then judged and ranked, with feedback. Whether you're a veteran designer with hundreds of levels or have never made a level before in your life, your submission is welcome here!
For this month, I want to see a ghost level in CC2. You may use any map size or settings you'd like, and additional themes beyond that, but at its core the level should be able to be described as a ghost level. Ghosts are very flexible and can be used for a lot of different types of level, so I'm looking forward to seeing what you come up with :)
Some administrative details:
- Submit your level(s) to me at IHNN#3459 on Discord or by PM on the forums before December 1st. Extensions will be granted for up to 1 week if a designer has let me know that they're working on something.
- You may submit up to 3 levels to the competition: if you submit more, only the most recent 3 will be judged. You may update your submissions at any time. These levels should be new, or at the very least unreleased.
- Levels should be solvable but do not require a replay. If you do not have CC2, you can still use CCCreator to create a level- let me know if you can't get anyone to give it a test and we can work something out.
- New for this competition: I will be taking a look at maps as I receive them and striving to respond with some quick first impressions and potential thoughts for ways it could be improved, unless asked not to. I'm going to try this based on some Discord discussions to try to help everyone create the best levels they can. I will not be playing the levels before judging, and will hopefully be able to stream the judging process either on my Twitch stream or to Discord.
- If you have any additional questions, don't hesitate to ask either directly or in this thread.
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| CCBBC Survey - Summary of Responses |
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Posted by: DeltaCore - 29-Oct-2020, 4:10 AM - Forum: Feedback
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I received 23 responses to the Discord/BitBusters.club survey posted on October 23 and have not received any further responses in a couple days, so I figure it is now a good time to post a summary of the results. For those who don't follow our Discord announcements, the purpose of this survey was to better gather information about how people are feeling about our Discord community (as well as opportunities to give feedback on the BitBusters.club project as a whole) and to give everyone the opportunity to put their name forward to serve our community in roles like Discord Mod and Scorekeeper if desired.
It is not too late to submit a survey response if you wish: https://forms.gle/vqR9EYp9MJuLdawaA I'll keep the survey open for some time for anyone who wishes to contribute still, although I will likely not post responses left from this point forward for everyone unless it is of general significance to the community.
Thanks to everyone who took the time to contribute constructively! I invite responses below as long as they are also constructive and not an attack of the person providing the feedback.
What are some things you feel are working well on our community Discord?
I thought the responses for this question were excellent and have been able to reproduce just about all of them in full below as the feedback was very generalized.
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Quote:Very strong sense of community - that was more than clear from day one. Everyone cares a ton in their own way and want to see the server succeed. A lot of passionate chips players over the years have come together to make some great level packs, map editors, mods, you name it. I'm very impressed by what this community has done for chips challenge! This conversation and this survey wouldn't happen in a lot of other communities. I think it's great how all users are able to provide input and opinions and are listened to! The mod team has never felt like some separate group that is unreachable or untouchable.
Quote:Sense of community is strong. The Discord as it stands is the best place for anyone to go to for active Chips related discussion. I think that it is the best form of group messaging that the Chips community has utilized over the years. It is easy to access, reliable, and has lots of available customizability. It is fascinating to see members across several generations, new and old, all in one place. We literally have pieguy on demand now. How cool is that?
Quote:It's great for keeping tabs on all the cool stuff folks are making (levels, etc.), following along with CC2LP1 progress, etc. The strictly-game-focused discussions are usually pretty fun (at least when folks aren't ranting about things; see below). Gliderbot is best bot; just browsing random level previews here and there is super-entertaining for whatever reason.
Quote:Being able to bring up maps for easy discussion of levels, having several people who are excited to see new content and several more who continue to make and present it here, overall channel structure, generally just being able to chat about a game I like.
Quote:For the most part, I feel like a lot of things have been working well. I cannot name each and every one of them at this time but the server has been fairly good and am happy to be a part of it.
Quote:The collaborative efforts are really awesome. The efforts to put together CC2LP1 from the community's and the mod's perspectives are remarkable. The result is great to see others enjoy.
Quote:Well, I've only just joined, but it seems like a nice community from what I've seen. Very inclusive even of casual players like me. And the glider bot is damn impressive.
Quote:I love that this place exists for people to join around Chip’s Challenge. People are also very fast and helpful with answers whenever I have questions about anything.
Quote:The emojis are quite fun, I like how the community is sized, and also how for a change the people in the server seem to not be under the age limit.
Quote:Discussion and projects about the game usually go well and end in success, serious-discussion is also usually smooth running
Quote:The subject specific channels work really well and people have been willing and proactive at helping myself and others.
Quote:Competitive play, creative endeavors like level and CC-software design, #serious-discussions for the most part
Quote:Talking about CC1/2, level design... "light" topics in off-topic, like "had a bad day", "saw some movie"...
Quote:I like talking to people about stuff. Plus nobody has insulted me directly (yet, fingers crossed)
Quote:Rapid score updates in #feeds, GliderBot, #level-design most of the time.
Quote:It's a great place to aggregate information and discuss the community.
Quote:Gliderbot works extremely well, and the channel structure is good.
Quote:Feeds. The channels serve well to separate different topics.
Quote:The communication and all features are working well.
Quote:The bot and the level discussions are great.
Quote:You're keeping CC alive man, good job.
Quote:Seems to be plenty of discussion
What are some things you feel are NOT working well on our community Discord?
Here there were lots of concerns that I do not wish to share verbatim either because it would immediately identify the person who provided the feedback or because some of the concerns raised are best considered by the moderation team in private. That said, below I am including excerpts from the responses to this question that I feel are relevant to the community at large. Some of the responses have been edited or condensed to a summary to help preserve anonymity.
Please rest assured that if you do not see your specific concern(s) in this list that I did receive your full survey response and more complete responses will be shared with the moderation team.
Lastly, it is important to note that not every single item raised as part of these surveys will be taken as an "actionable item". As a path forward, I plan to post an additional thread soon to outline some changes in response to this survey that will attempt to address the highest priority items. However, I do still feel there is value in publishing as much of the feedback provided as possible.
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Quote:Too much vitriol
Quote:I don't feel there are any issues with the discord.
Quote:There's a lot of the same thing with little variations in views/opinion between members. No solution, just how the conversation and community exists.
Quote:Some people don't act very nice and there is too much memeing.
Quote:Use of reactions/memes in serious discussions that happen in on-topic rooms. Removing the emotes isn't going to solve the issue, nor is banning the people, because it's not an "always does it"/they contribute useful stuff at other times.
Not sure how to really fix it, other than getting the users to mature. Know when something is serious, and that they shouldn't say/do anything unless it's helpful to the conversation.
Quote:Haven't noticed anything so far.
Quote:Honestly, I am unsure what to put here. I have no current gripes with the community.
Quote:There's a clear lack of respect toward others coming from some community members. At times, this rises to the level of bullying where the only 3 options are to accept it, bring it to the mod team (this has not helped in the past either in public or in private), or ask directly the behavior stop (also has not helped and usually makes the problem worse).
There are constant interruptions and derailing comments during most discussions about the game. The overall atmosphere is exceedingly negative, with attacks on people, content and pretty much everything thrown around constantly. Sticking negative or hostile reacts on everything contributes to this atmosphere and it might be worth toying with removing the ability to react from people who show they can't be trusted with that ability.
It all boils down to some people being unable to follow rule 1, and hiding behind rule 3 when confronted, only enabled by a fairly passive mod team.
Quote:I think the server could be a bit more beginner-friendly — maybe just even having an overview of all the resources available in the community in a separate channel and some introductions. It often seems like a cosy club with established participants and I'm not really part of it. (I might be completely off though.)
Quote:I don't think #serious-discussions has its place in the CC discord. The CC community is tight-knit, but I believe it's at the point where people who are close to each other to talk about serious topics should feel comfortable and encouraged to do so in private group DMs and the like.
Quote:A lot of the server regulars get waaaaaay too vocal about stuff they don't like. It's kind of a minefield entering any conversation, 'cause there's like a 50% chance somebody's gonna go "I DON'T LIKE THING" in response to... anything, really. One example is pulling up a map and suddenly getting a bunch of unprompted feedback about my choice of tileset. There's a time and a place to get critical -- like if I post a level, then definitely critique it up -- but it kinda just pops up anywhere.
Reacts (lyingface, csb, residentsleeper, etc.) are sort of a subset of this, though after lurking about the server for a while it's pretty clear that they're used in jest most of the time. Could still be offputting to new users, though; you kinda have to stick around for a few weeks before it sinks in.
I still stick around 'cause I love the game and there's a lot of genuinely good content that crops up pretty regularly, but I don't comment a whole lot unless it's directly about the game (and even then I gotta second-guess hitting the 'enter' key a whole lot).
[Granted, I dunno how much of this is 'fixable'; moderating a community is a crapshoot and sometimes people's personalities are oil and water. Could be I'm the odd one out here, and if so, oh well. Worth a shot at least. :P ]
Quote:* Requiring respect for the rules and the mods' efforts to enforce them. Enforcement of the rules should never be a meme. Perhaps there is a way to insist people take the mods' authority more seriously, without being totally draconic.
* Setting standards of what actually constitutes "respectful" and "disrespectful" behavior, that the mods can use to guide them in enforcing the rules. This is not a job just for the mods. It's something the community as a whole needs to do.
Quote:It seems between certain users there is a lot of history or bad blood that can either be resolved in private or can just simply not happen. It seems petty things sometimes get blown out of proportion.
One thing that does feel kind of weird is that often I will see a productive discussion talking about something serious, then see the same people jump into the random channel and talk down on the discussion. It may just be an ironic thing but it makes it hard to take people seriously when making points. Even if it is the random chat, I still think it can be possible to enforce a policy about being respectful to each other. I feel like I need to justify any time I send a message in the case of it becoming a copy paste meme later on.
I also think the community can be a little more welcoming to newer players trying to get involved in certain parts of the community. It may just be that I'm being too sensitive but I've seen a couple questions I've asked or others have asked in serious channels about the game get ignored or criticized for something small. I think in general people should work on understanding that new players don't always know exactly where to find information on things, or in general that people should just be friendly and respectful online!
Quote:The memey-ness, disruptiveness, and dismissiveness of certain members. I don't personally find it offensive to myself, and tend to just ignore it, but I know other people find it offensive to them (sometimes to the point of leaving) and it does make the server look a bit worse to new users. A quantified warning system, where accumulating a certain number of warnings results in small but meaningful consequences could help with this. However, I acknowledge we don't want the mod team to come off as too draconian because a lot of the "problematic" behavior people call out consists of a massive accumulation of tiny incidents rather than severe, obviously-out-of-line incidents. Maybe this involves the mods being stricter with certain members due to their history.
Quote:I feel like a majority of legitimate issues that are brought up are never handled the way I think they should be. It feels extremely wasteful when any problem is brought up as a lot of them tend to be dismissed like they aren't problems when they really are. For me personally, it has gotten to the point where I have just lost interest in raising concerns about the server when I know 95% of the time, nothing will change. I either handle it myself or just ignore it at this point. In addition, most or all issues raised seem to be addressed by Cowman alone. More hands on help from moderators would be ideal in my opinion, including but not limited to, adding one or two moderators to the team to better handle and help with the control of the server as a whole. I really do believe it is what the server needs the most, to better assist and implement the rules that have been in place.
At the end of it all, I don't have as many issues with the server as I did in the past. I have my annoyances with certain things, but as a whole I would mainly just like there to be some amount of seriousness/strictness when issues are raised, regardless how small they may seem on first glance. I would also like the moderators to be a bit more active in their role instead of Cowman handling everything because it's not fair to him. Some examples: whenever someone throws a tantrum over the reacts their messages get, a map of a level someone dislikes gets pulled up via Gliderbot and they rage about it, or when unnecessary responses are given from parties not involved in ongoing conversations, which in turn derails said conversations. Things like this I don't believe should have much tolerance in a server of several dozen active users, especially when ongoing topics and conversations that have true meaning are taking place.
Quote:When I first joined the server I found the atmosphere to be quite hostile and confrontational and it took me a while to see past that and understand the humour. Without context and just as text (without intonation etc.) meanings are easily lost as this accounts for only about 7% of communication. Some recent enforment of channel subjects, especially the random channel, has no doubt helped the opinion new users get, though I think there should be some information added in rules about the option to opt out of random and using markdown to make comments more clear.
Quote:While I would like to interact more on this server, I don’t want to express any opinions because I’m afraid that they will be shot down (like they have in the past) with coolstorybobs and ’meh’s etc. I try not to be so sensitive about these things, but that’s who I am and it affects me a lot so I’d rather not risk it. I guess most of the Internet is like this but I feel like in the past, this community has been a much nicer environment than it is now.
I also believe (from what I feel is a pretty neutral perspective) that some people in this Discord are being bullied.
Quote:Interesting discussion is not highlighted in any way (which can be seen as the cost of using Discord, but at times it has worked, though it's hard to point out any reasons).
Many discussions devolve into pointless chat and meme comments or interruptions.
Quote:General rude/meanness towards server members under the guise of ironic sarcasm, "memes" that are just quoting what another person that in effect just dismisses anything the message was actually saying, good or bad.
Potentially more enforcement of rules 1 and 2 if possible
Quote:There's definitely a lot of snipping and kinda meanness, and it's kind of hard to tell how much of it is actually friendly and how much is just mean.
Do you have any other concerns with any aspect of the our Discord community or the BitBusters.club project not mentioned above you would like to raise?
Some scattered feedback which isn't necessarily related to the Discord server.
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Quote:Interactions with Allack... That whole last day with him, the whole new server... It really feels like people are just focused on Allack being the "bad guy" or useless, instead of taking into account the whole situation. Or, they discount the whole situation, and just say Allack is the cause. Either way, having Allack joked about/insulted seems really bad form. What if he had removed CC1/2 because he reported back that the community was reverse engineering it? There are worse things Allack could have done, and I feel that everyone just harps on Allack because he's the only face we see.
Quote:First off, thanks for keeping this community running - I really appreciate it. I mainly use the discord to chat about my CC related projects and I appreciate having knowledgeable community members with a long history of community contributions around. So I'm slightly concerned about people like James Anderson leaving as an example. I think what was recently brought up about irony poisoning and evaporative cooling are warnings worth heeding. The chat can be a little too memey for my taste sometimes (but I don't want to take away people's fun).
Quote:It just feels like we should all be having more _fun_ playing & modding this game, y'know?
Quote:The Bitbusters.club project is overall pretty great, although some links in the main page are outdated. As for the Discord server, I think more strict moderating is necessary. Thank you for running this survey.
Quote:To end on a positive note, this discord is the reason I downloaded discord on my phone and use it regularly, I had not in the past.
Quote:Certain members only contribution to CC related discussions seem to just be ironic sarcasm
Quote:It’s hard to remain interested in a community when there’s only a single driving interest.
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