Chip's Challenge 3 is apparently happening eventually. Here are some improvements from CC2 that I would like to see.
Need-to-haves:
A sand tile. This would block monsters and blocks but allow Chip and Melinda (with hiking boots?) to cross. There is no tile with these properties in CC2 while even Chuck's Challenge has one. Using fake green walls as a block blocker is awkward.
A no-drop tile. An overlay tile that prevents boots from being dropped on it. Blank no signs and no signs with irrelevant tools technically do the job but they are unsightly and don't convey their intent as well as a dedicated tile would.
Native support for zero-directional blocks. This is the most commonly used "hacked" tile and is a logical extension of the other directional blocks.
Wiring on a separate layer. Wiring in CC2 is powerful, but still held back by their restriction to being placed on just floor and steel walls. The ideal solution is to combine the best of CC1's connection system and CC2's wiring system and allow wires to exist on a dedicated layer. Visibility while playing a level could be toggled by a key and they could appear as a transparent overlay. This would also fix the oddity of pink and black buttons not appearing when hide logic is on.
More consistent monster behavior. Bugs and rovers should not avoid canopies. Fireballs and ghosts with flippers should not avoid turtles. Rovers with fire boots should not avoid fire.
Support for bowling balls starting on clone machines. The ghost setup takes up an absurd amount of space for such a simple result.
Allow blocked green teleports to be skipped over.
Support for lowercase letters.
Give teeth monsters north-facing tile, and give blue teeth the same number of animation frames as red teeth.
Automatic recording while playing a level, like Tile World's. This should be easy to apply to normal play since it already exists in the editor.
Higher res graphics, 64x64? No 3D graphics like Puzzle Studio or Chuck's Challenge please
Extra green chip/bomb tiles.
More diverse sound effects. CC2 has fewer sound effects than the original Lynx game despite the wealth of new elements.
Important bug fixes:
Disallow hooks from attempting to pull monsters.
Disallow the player from being able to slap monsters.
If blocks can be pushed consecutively on floor, allow them to be pushed consecutively on force floors.
Trap logic fix, including multiple trap button problems and the issues with wired traps
Consistent snatching and hook block slapping behavior (i.e. not monster order related)
Flame jet max distance fix
The two disappearing Chip glitches and the Waterbirth glitch
Thin wall on closed side of railroad should not have any effect except when the RR sign is equipped
Allow player to step off force floor if they start the level on them
Allow key inventory to exceed 255.
Want-to-have fun stuff:
Allow blocks to be pushed at 2x speed when Chip has speed boots.
Make blocks have no effect on recessed walls. This would revert their behavior back to CC1. Ice blocks and directional blocks would still be able to be pushed on them, and turtles could still retain the CC2 "flicking" behavior.
More thin tiles: walls are the only tiles to have thin versions of them even though other tiles could be adapted to this concept. Puzzle Studio has thin toggle walls. Thin gravel, thin force floors, thin recessed walls, etc. have potential.
Lasers: Puzzle Studio and Escape have these. A beam it shot in one (or more) directions until stopped by a wall and other elements like blocks and perhaps monsters. Chip dies when hit by the beam. Maybe a beam receiver that converts the beam to an electrical current.
Reflectors: Chuck's Challenge has these, though they apply to the spitter enemy. Pushable block that reflects bowling balls and lasers 90 degrees. Could be rotated with train tracks.
Logic gate enhancements: Add NOR and XNOR gate for completeness. Add diodes which allow current in only one direction, the ability to specify a delay in frames from 1-10, which will make synchronizing circuits easier and remove the need for chained OR gates (Circuit City contains an example of long OR gate chains)
"Frictionless" blocks (don't have a better name): Copy of the yellow blocks from Escape. These are blocks, once pushed in some direction, that continue on a straight path until they hit an obstacle. Think of tanks but pushable in any direction by Chip.
Score gate: Exists in Challengo, essentially a socket that the player can open if they have enough points but will deduct from their score.
Templates i made for the February 2019 Create Comp. Each version contains a .c2m for each level as well as a .ccs for the whole set.
The pure version is regular, steel, and custom walls only. In the other version, i tried to pick out the most prominent tiles (in some cases i actually removed certain walls, like T-N-T Time).
Often when I make levels, it's getting started which is the tricky part. I find once I've got started the ideas just flow and I just build on it.
I have found if I try to convert one of my levels for CC1 over to CC2 as accurately as I can, I find that (due to many reasons) it just won't work in CC2. So I make little modifications to make it work and I end up with a completely different level
For example my CC2 level 33 came about by trying to convert level 25 from CheeseT1.dat, but they are both completely different:
I recently migrated from an old laptop to new one (both Mac), and CCEdit no longer opening, I'm getting the attached - "Error: No tilesets found. Please check your CCTools installation."
I try to reinstall from the package but get that installation warning which makes me nervous as hell about messing up my new system.
I got a package manager to peek under the hood of what's IN the .pkg, and I see the contents - both the apps, which I have in the proper folder, and the other two files, which I placed in users/shared/cctools, but I'm still getting that "no tilesets found" message :-\
has anyone that's confined to the Mac run into this before, and does anyone know of some workaround? (i.e. which files have the tiles, and where to place them)
I have recently formed a staff for CC2LP1. It consists of The Architect, chipster1059, H2O, Zane Kuecks, random 8, Ruben Spaans, and Tyler Sontag (me). The submissions deadline has been decided to be 31 May, 2019 at 23:59 in whatever timezone you're in. Be sure to post in the call for submissions thread if you want your levels to be considered for voting!
A fully comprehensive MSCC skin for CC2, not a single sprite or tile has not been looked over. Several of the tiles in here however are taken from other sets, the numbers are a few too many to count but basically if you made an MSCC styled CC2 sprite its probably in here.
Everything in this sheet has been reduced to the original 16 colours of the base game and all CC2 sprites have been adjusted to better fit the MSCC style.
Feel free to edit parts of this and use the tiles in your own set, I would be honoured if you did.
Issues: some tiles aren't exactly perfect, such as the foil which I couldn't get exactly right but is still somewhat MSCC, and the dirt patch tile which doesn't match its original MSCC appearance as I didn't want to give people who use smooth scrolling a seizure, logic gates remain unchanged other than colours as modifying those would A. throw people off and B. they already look fine.
A fully comprehensive MSCC skin for CC2, not a single sprite or tile has not been looked over. Several of the tiles in here however are taken from other sets, the numbers are a few too many to count but basically if you made an MSCC styled CC2 sprite its probably in here.
Everything in this sheet has been reduced to the original 16 colours of the base game and all CC2 sprites have been adjusted to better fit the MSCC style.
Feel free to edit parts of this and use the tiles in your own set, I would be honoured if you did.
Issues: some tiles aren't exactly perfect, such as the foil which I couldn't get exactly right but is still somewhat MSCC, and the dirt patch tile which doesn't match its original MSCC appearance as I didn't want to give people who use smooth scrolling a seizure, logic gates remain unchanged other than colours as modifying those would A. throw people off and B. they already look fine.
Enjoy the Set!
Credits:
scutilla: for the original CC2 MS tileset that was improved heavily upon
Sickly Silver Moon: for most of the original overhaul work
Ryan J.: changes to many many tiles throughout iterations, solely responsible for the new ghost, and stay up + push down walls
ncrecc: For many new tiles and improvements including removal of animations and the new Transmogrifier and slime
The Chip's Challenge Discord Server Members: for their continued support, ideas, and suggestions for improvement
(Notably: Indy, IHNN, Chipster, Tyler, Naemuti, Flareon350, Cowman_133, Vehudur / Lessinath, Sharpeye & the other marketers; and plenty others who Chipped in to help and improve)
Ed Halley: for creating the original Microsoft tileset used in the Microsoft WEP release, without that this project wouldn't exist
And finally:
You: for taking the time to download and use this tileset, or even just consider looking at it. Without you this project would be pointless, thank you.
What's New in Version 5.0.0
Set has been updated to be much more consistent throughout and matches with everything much better now, lots of tiles changed and issues fixed, animations removed, as well as custom/cosmetic tiles and flame jets redone!
![[Image: CClevelconvert.jpg]](https://i.postimg.cc/BvQ4zFL4/CClevelconvert.jpg)
