Tom P levels for CCLP1

[AdrenalinDragon]

Well guys, it's up. TomPCCLP1.dat. 70 levels. I decided not to put too many levels in the set, in fear of domination. Let me know if there are any changes you think the levels should have or are unsolvable in MS/Lynx. Also, feedback on the set and your favourites would be great too.

[Michael]

I actually think a few of these levels would be good for CCLP1

[AdrenalinDragon]

I actually think a few of these levels would be good for CCLP1

Which ones did you like or think were ONE STAR ?

[Michael]

The only ONE STAR level I can see is Snipers, but you already know that

[AdrenalinDragon]

The only ONE STAR level I can see is Snipers, but you already know that

Really? The Snipers is one of my favourites. It's a tough dodging level (meaning ONE STAR from Trevor most likely), but well designed. Would probably have to be a late CCLP1 level.

[Michael]

ONE STAR levels: The Snipers.

Two star levels:

Three star levels: Runaway Train, Rock Band, Cold Fear, Chiptown, Superstar, Frozen In Time, Supermarket, Halloween.

Four star levels: Tightrope, Green Clear, Center Priority, All Bit Busters Go To Heaven, Locked Up, Habitat, Inferno, Bowling Alleys, Tanks Tango, The Crazy Machine, Chip Of The Dead, Christmas Eve, Pickpocket Land, Flooded, Block Keepers, Bridge Of Disaster, Cineworld, Chiptropolis, Route 280, It's A Trap!, If Only You Knew, Alien Invasion.

Five star levels: Rainbow Door Key, Courtyard, Polruan, Solve The Pyramid, Fortress I and II, !?, Blobs On A Plane, Space Man, Future World, Funfair, Flamethrowers, Adrenalin Rush, Sleeping Dragon, Bank Robber, Research Lab, There And Back, Freedom Or Die, Chip Plank Galleon, Untitled, Chip Alone, Heavenly Challenges, Rise From Your Grave, The Church, The Village, Route 101, Airport Shenanigans, A Scare In The Air, High School, The Sewers, City Escape, Ladder To Heaven, Boingy Balls I and II, The Labyrinth, Finders Keepers, Ice Trip, Boat Rider, Final Destination.

This is every level

[IceyLava108]

I like level 1 a lot.

[M11k4]

Having played the relatively old TomP1 and TomP2, I was waiting to see how your designs had evolved since then, with of course having also seen some great time trial levels of yours. I now have played through fifty of the levels, and given up on ten (for now), and not having the time to really try the other ten (39-42,55-58,69-70). Most of the levels were not too great, but there were some that really stood out as terrible, I mean good :-)

Some level by level comments:

#1 (All Bit Busters Go To Heaven) - I don't understand why you start a set with something this confusing, even if it's just a compilation set. Had I only played this level, I would not have wanted to continue onto the next one. It's too hard to keep track of where Chip can go and how the gliders release and where they end up. Even looking at a map, I didn't yet complete this level but moved onto others I liked more. Then again, Icey just said he liked the level, so what do I know?

#2 (Courtyard) - This felt familiar from before. Nothing that makes it stand out while playing, but looking at the map it seems there's perhaps more to the level than I first realized. Not one of my favorite anyway.

#4 (Runaway Train) - A cool looking and sounding level, which is rare. Would like it more if there was less of the back and forth. Definitely the three bugs move quite annoyingly without a clear pattern in lynx, so would suggest removing at least one. The blob room is just the right shape. Don't like the bomb under a block, as it would just be clearer to have walls here.

#5 (Rainbow Door Key) - One of the blue keys is erased in lynx (bug moves before ff forces it forward). Still solvable, but unequal. Otherwise I find this too difficult to clearly see what you're supposed to do, as most locks tell you what you get only after they are already opened. This means there are too many ways to cook the level, even if there are many actual ways to do it right too.

#6 (Snipers) - Really had fun on this level! Would suggest removing the second half, as it was too straightforward in comparison and the level is enough with just the tricky teeth part. I like how the fireballs move at different speeds in the different columns and you can still always dodge them by going far enough and waiting for an opening, or just waiting for everything to calm down and then run out again. Please just keep the start and remove the other half.

#7 (Tightrope) - What a mess! And by that I mean it's very unclear on where you're supposed to run. Why all the buttons? And when you do stumble on the right path, then the level just ends. I didn't find a reason to really like this.

#8 (Center priority) - Sorry but didn't enjoy this either. After dying once in the middle, it's really just annoying to go through the first stages again. That should tell you that maybe it wasn't that fun at first either.

#9 (Green clear) - ok, so I like this more than Toggle Bust, but it's so similar that I still wouldn't want to see it in CCLP1. But it was nice otherwise.

#10 (Rock Band) - another one of those confusing objectives. And when I did solve it, it didn't feel like I had figured out anything particularly insightful. Perhaps there's some cool flavor here with the name and all, but just playing the level it didn't stand out.

#11 (Locked up) - I like well designed block pushing levels, but you have to understand those also take a deal of design work. It's easier to make levels like this that feel like a bunch of corridors with blocks and the right amount of water tiles to keep it solvable. There's no twist here! Too generic, so it's meant for someone not having anything to do for quarter of an hour, which is not supposed to be me.

#12 (Cold Fear) - On my first try I run into an invisible wall. Why should I try this level again? Will I spend another five minutes just to discover another annoying way to get stuck? And why is that supposed to be fun? I did come back and look in the editor to solve the level, but the magic was lost and nothing was there to bring it back. (And by the magic I mean the excitement of wondering if this level is a gem or something, but this time it just didn't work out.)

#17 (Bowling Alleys) - Looks nice but in the end there's not enough puzzle here with regards to the bowling. Would suggest having all the lanes as similar as possible, with just the target changing each time, which would make it more elegant.

#20 (Tanks Tango) - Maybe the second level I really like so far? It looks unique, isn't too simple, and has good replay value (I died a lot but wasn't annoyed). Is it too difficult for CCLP1? We'll see.

#21 (The Crazy Machine) - This level has a special place in my heart, as some years back when I was first getting into competative play, somehow this was one of the first levels I worked on by myself to optimize. (Check pieguy's site for record.) Back then spending three hours on a level seemed unbelievable! I still like the level, but wouldn't rate it high as is, since the random elements still are too much for optimizing. Any chance you could change the walker room at least?

#26 (Christmas Eve) - This ones nice. The teeth come at me a bit quick in lynx. The north-west corner is clever.

#27 (Chip of the Dead) - Too hard.

#29 (Pickpocket land) - slightly unequal, as the gliders (3+1) don't die in fire. Also quite hard to see what's needed without a map, but with a map it was quite enjoyable.

#31 (Future World) - Hopefully my future won't look like this. Even looking at the mad I couldn't see what I wanted to do here, so I left it unfinished.

#32 (Flooded) - Clever. There was much unneeded stuff though, which might be confusing.

#33 (Halloween) - The corridors were so long and the item swapping so tricky, that I skipped this untill I pulled out a map. Is that the kind of experience we really want for new players?

#34 (Funfair) - Again the item swapping forced me to go back and forth over long distances. This also makes optimizing the level that much less fun, as the overall plan for the level is mapped out by the designer and not the player.

#35 (Block Keepers) - Would be decent if it was half the size.

#36 (Flame Throwers) - I would call the cloning/teleport area unequal in lynx compared to ms; it's much easier to go through the teleports in ms, while in Lynx you'll most likely kill yourself. Also felt the same game play could have been squeezed into a smaller space with shorter corridors or something.

#37 (Adrenalin Rush) - One of those levels on which I just spent too much time. And I did quite before completing it. Seems too hard without a map. And very tight in lynx (without any boosting). Has anyone solved it in lynx?

#38 (Sleeping Dragon) - I liked this, and it's flavorable too! Well, it's not a masterpiece, but still quite fun I'd say.

#43 (There and Back) - I liked this too. Can't pinpoint why, but perhaps there just wasn't anything that annoyed me :-)

#44 (Freedom or Die) - I guess these are getting better, since this was another good one. See how the objective is clear at each stage? I never felt lost, but sometimes puzzled, which is good. Perhaps not having random monsters in the final room would be a small improvement, but otherwise would like to play this again.

#45-47 (old comp levels) - these are all great! Perhaps Chiptropolis isn't quite as great as the other two, but it's still quite fun. Chip Plank Galleon has a strong theme and is slightly different now that it's not a treasure hunter level. The Untitled one was liked way back when, though some of the block pushing in the east could be toned down (like removing some of the bombs).

#48 (Chip Alone) - This is a nice puzzle. A pair of puzzles actually, since both fireballs get their own side. The yellow key seems pointless, but I guess that's a designer's choice.

#49 (Heavenly Challenges) - Nothing wrong with this one. Having the water in the blue wall maze is nice, and that area isn't too large to begin with either to be annoying. Some decent puzzles as well. Thumbs up from me :-)

#51 (The Church) - And we're back to long corridors with item swapping. If it was just the concepts of the glider section with the block and the fireball section at the end, I might like this level a lot. As it is, there's a lot of walking inbetween actually doing something.

#52 (The Village) - slightly unequal, as you can put the block on the trap and then go free it by pressing the button yourself (the block slapping over fire has no effect). Not a terrible level, but would like to see better ones in CCLP1 unfortunately.

#53 (Route 101) - Yeah, this was nice, though I did like the next one more.

#54 (Route 280) - It's hard to say how difficult this level is, as in ms you can boost backwards to stop yourself and see what's ahead, while in lynx you can pause the game to do the same. Of course if you have good reflexes you can just go through flying! But can newish players do any of those, I wonder?

#59 (It's a Trap) - It was too hard to keep running around and avoid the teeth, while it was too easy to just go back and forth in the teleports. And, despite the name, there is no trap in the level ;-)

#60 (City Escape) - Too chaotic for my tastes. (didn't complete)

#61 (Ladder to Heaven) - I liked this one. What if it was enough to just go up on one side?

#62 (Boingy Balls) - Enjoyed this. The right amount of dodging with a couple places that made me think a bit. A nice touch with the exit being far from the socket; it felt right this time.

#63 (Boingy Balls II) - I enjoyed this maybe even more, but it is quite hard for new players. Didn't like the end that required me to think too fast (getting the last chip from the cloning room). Why not just make this part simpler and clearer, since the whole level is already quite complex? (Like having several traps there that a single ball would open in turn or something else more managable than what it is now.)

#64 (If You only Knew) - I like to play without a map as much as possible, and this just isn't a level I would ever like.

#65 (The Labyrinth) - Technically, a labyrinth has only a single path through as opposed to a maze. Didn't like guessing which red door to open. Maybe someone smarter than me could've observed on the ice slide and guessed that the red button activates a cloner or something, but that's asking a lot. At the very least I think the south-west teleport thing needs more room, as it usually kills you in lynx but not in ms when you don't step off.

#68 (Ice Trip) - As the last level I really played, I was happy to end on a high note. This is a nice mixture of movement and chip collecting with a bit of key, button, and footwear action. Not all levels with these ingredients work, but this one does. Maybe it's about not being in confined spaces, or stupidly killing myself at every turn, or just the simplicity of it all, but I like this level for what it is.

#70 (Final Destination) - You wouldn't seriously want to see this in CCLP1, would you?

So yeah, that's what you get for asking me about my opinions on your levels. Though there were some levels I don't want to revisit, I did enjoy most of the time I spent playing. Hopefully you aren't hurt by my bluntness at times, but can take it more as insight into how your levels are perceived by me. The ones I did like I am sure to keep in mind and hope to see them again in CCLP1!

Thanks Tom for these levels and even more so for this site that you keep running! See you around!

-Miika

[AdrenalinDragon]

No offense M11k4, but I can't tell if you're being sarcastic on some of your post comments. Probably unintentional, but forgive me if I come out too harsh on my comments.

#1 (All Bit Busters Go To Heaven) - I don't understand why you start a set with something this confusing, even if it's just a compilation set. Had I only played this level, I would not have wanted to continue onto the next one. It's too hard to keep track of where Chip can go and how the gliders release and where they end up. Even looking at a map, I didn't yet complete this level but moved onto others I liked more. Then again, Icey just said he liked the level, so what do I...

Perhaps it was a bad idea starting the set off with this level, but it was intended to be a late CCLP1 level. You can work it all out without a map, and there's no cheap deaths if you don't rush (Well, the water near the block in the bottom right could be considered one, but you can see it in advance). You'd probably like it more when you beat it. I prefer playing this level in Lynx to be honest, despite the tank part being harder.

#2 (Courtyard) - This felt familiar from before. Nothing that makes it stand out while playing, but looking at the map it seems there's perhaps more to the level than I first realized. Not one of my favorite anyway.

Interesting, you're the second person to have not liked this level (BigOto2 being the other). It's the one I want most in CCLP1, but fair enough.

#4 (Runaway Train) - A cool looking and sounding level, which is rare. Would like it more if there was less of the back and forth. Definitely the three bugs move quite annoyingly without a clear pattern in lynx, so would suggest removing at least one. The blob room is just the right shape. Don't like the bomb under a block, as it would just be clearer to have walls here.

I noticed it was harder in Lynx too. Don't think the bomb under the block is too much of a problem, because it's right at the beginning like in CCLP3 level 1.

#5 (Rainbow Door Key) - One of the blue keys is erased in lynx (bug moves before ff forces it forward). Still solvable, but unequal. Otherwise I find this too difficult to clearly see what you're supposed to do, as most locks tell you what you get only after they are already opened. This means there are too many ways to cook the level, even if there are many actual ways to do it right too.

It's not busted, it was intentionally made to have multiple/alternate solutions. There's a few extra keys so there's a bit of room for error on purpose. I haven't decided whether to put a hint telling the player where to go for the first three keys yet, but it's supposed to be trial and error hence the untimed clock. It almost got into CCLP3, so people must like it for some reason.

#6 (Snipers) - Really had fun on this level! Would suggest removing the second half, as it was too straightforward in comparison and the level is enough with just the tricky teeth part. I like how the fireballs move at different speeds in the different columns and you can still always dodge them by going far enough and waiting for an opening, or just waiting for everything to calm down and then run out again. Please just keep the start and remove the other half.

This is one of my favourites of mine surprisingly too. I was a bit unsure what people would think of the second room. I love it, but obviously people don't seem to think it's required or find it annoying (The idea was to kill the second sniper so you could reach the exit), so I might take it out to increase its chances in getting into CCLP1.

#7 (Tightrope) - What a mess! And by that I mean it's very unclear on where you're supposed to run. Why all the buttons? And when you do stumble on the right path, then the level just ends. I didn't find a reason to really like this.

Again, had no problems with this level. Not too difficult, but not too easy. You can work out where all the clone buttons are connected.

#8 (Center priority) - Sorry but didn't enjoy this either. After dying once in the middle, it's really just annoying to go through the first stages again. That should tell you that maybe it wasn't that fun at first either.

Apart from maybe the Joyride section near the end (Ironically being my favourite part of the level), I had no problems with this level and thought it was enjoyable.

#9 (Green clear) - ok, so I like this more than Toggle Bust, but it's so similar that I still wouldn't want to see it in CCLP1. But it was nice otherwise.

Fair enough. I thought it was a good candidate for CCLP1 because it of it's CC1-like design. Again, probably hit and miss for the CC community.

#10 (Rock Band) - another one of those confusing objectives. And when I did solve it, it didn't feel like I had figured out anything particularly insightful. Perhaps there's some cool flavor here with the name and all, but just playing the level it didn't stand out.

It's supposed to be a rock concert and you having to get onto the stage to exit. Not too difficult. Had no problems with it.

#11 (Locked up) - I like well designed block pushing levels, but you have to understand those also take a deal of design work. It's easier to make levels like this that feel like a bunch of corridors with blocks and the right amount of water tiles to keep it solvable. There's no twist here! Too generic, so it's meant for someone not having anything to do for quarter of an hour, which is not supposed to be me.

Again, designed as a CC1-esque style level and heavily inspired by "Corridor". Might not do well in the voting though for that exact reason, unfortuantly.

#12 (Cold Fear) - On my first try I run into an invisible wall. Why should I try this level again? Will I spend another five minutes just to discover another annoying way to get stuck? And why is that supposed to be fun? I did come back and look in the editor to solve the level, but the magic was lost and nothing was there to bring it back. (And by the magic I mean the excitement of wondering if this level is a gem or something, but this time it just didn't work out.)

Not a fan of invisible walls, eh? Again, really liked this level. Maybe a few cheap deaths, but the level is only a minute long, so I'm not too fussed over it.

#17 (Bowling Alleys) - Looks nice but in the end there's not enough puzzle here with regards to the bowling. Would suggest having all the lanes as similar as possible, with just the target changing each time, which would make it more elegant.

It used to be generic and all the lanes used to be the same. It was really boring. This version has puzzle, so I'm kind of confused on the complaint here.

#20 (Tanks Tango) - Maybe the second level I really like so far? It looks unique, isn't too simple, and has good replay value (I died a lot but wasn't annoyed). Is it too difficult for CCLP1? We'll see.

Wow! A level you liked! I also like this level alot too and feel it would be a good mid to late CCLP1 level.

#21 (The Crazy Machine) - This level has a special place in my heart, as some years back when I was first getting into competative play, somehow this was one of the first levels I worked on by myself to optimize. (Check pieguy's site for record.) Back then spending three hours on a level seemed unbelievable! I still like the level, but wouldn't rate it high as is, since the random elements still are too much for optimizing. Any chance you could change the walker room at least?

I am a bit skeptical on that walker room too, might be a problem. I'll probably change it so that it's not luck based.

#26 (Christmas Eve) - This ones nice. The teeth come at me a bit quick in lynx. The north-west corner is clever.

It's a bit on the tricky side, but pretty good I think for CCLP1. The teeth part should be fine. It's not intended to be a super easy level after all.

#27 (Chip of the Dead) - Too hard.

There is a tactic to beating it. Again, it's not supposed to be an easy level. Maybe a late CCLP1 candidate.

#29 (Pickpocket land) - slightly unequal, as the gliders (3+1) don't die in fire. Also quite hard to see what's needed without a map, but with a map it was quite enjoyable.

I'll fix that in the next update.

#31 (Future World) - Hopefully my future won't look like this. Even looking at the mad I couldn't see what I wanted to do here, so I left it unfinished.

Again, not an easy level, but fun once you know the path. I'm actually worried people will make CCLP1 too easy to be honest.

#32 (Flooded) - Clever. There was much unneeded stuff though, which might be confusing.

This was my equivalent of "The Marsh" basically. Would be a great CCLP1 candidate I think. I like there being a bit of discovery around the level.

#33 (Halloween) - The corridors were so long and the item swapping so tricky, that I skipped this untill I pulled out a map. Is that the kind of experience we really want for new players?

This one isn't hard, and I think the corridors work well here. There used to be walkers.

#34 (Funfair) - Again the item swapping forced me to go back and forth over long distances. This also makes optimizing the level that much less fun, as the overall plan for the level is mapped out by the designer and not the player.

The showcase for this level are the rides, and I feel this level is easy and a very good candidate for CCLP1. Bold time might be easy to get, but I don't think that's bad.

#35 (Block Keepers) - Would be decent if it was half the size.

I'm actually working on making this level half the size. Agreed. The concept is good for CCLP1, but currently it's too long for it's own good.

#36 (Flame Throwers) - I would call the cloning/teleport area unequal in lynx compared to ms; it's much easier to go through the teleports in ms, while in Lynx you'll most likely kill yourself. Also felt the same game play could have been squeezed into a smaller space with shorter corridors or something.

I am aware of the MS/Lynx rules of teleporting. This one was tough to convert, because the original version was too hard in Lynx. I think it's fine at the moment.

#37 (Adrenalin Rush) - One of those levels on which I just spent too much time. And I did quite before completing it. Seems too hard without a map. And very tight in lynx (without any boosting). Has anyone solved it in lynx?

I have solved it in Lynx with 3 seconds left on the clock. It's not supposed to be easy. Fun level though. Still one of my favourites.

#38 (Sleeping Dragon) - I liked this, and it's flavorable too! Well, it's not a masterpiece, but still quite fun I'd say.

It's an ok level. Sometimes I wonder if it's too empty though, but it might be fine for CCLP1.

#43 (There and Back) - I liked this too. Can't pinpoint why, but perhaps there just wasn't anything that annoyed me :-)

I don't like this one that much to be honest. Maybe because it's easy to mess up and kind of long. Who knows?

#44 (Freedom or Die) - I guess these are getting better, since this was another good one. See how the objective is clear at each stage? I never felt lost, but sometimes puzzled, which is good. Perhaps not having random monsters in the final room would be a small improvement, but otherwise would like to play this again.

Again, I like this level too, though I'm not sure where the randomness is to be honest.

#45-47 (old comp levels) - these are all great! Perhaps Chiptropolis isn't quite as great as the other two, but it's still quite fun. Chip Plank Galleon has a strong theme and is slightly different now that it's not a treasure hunter level. The Untitled one was liked way back when, though some of the block pushing in the east could be toned down (like removing some of the bombs).

I have a feeling these levels will get into CCLP1. I don't know why, they just seem to fit the bill well. I like Chip Plank Galleon the best of the three.

#48 (Chip Alone) - This is a nice puzzle. A pair of puzzles actually, since both fireballs get their own side. The yellow key seems pointless, but I guess that's a designer's choice.

It would be fitting for this to get into CCLP1, as it would follow up the sequel "Chip Alone: Lost In Chip City" in CCLP3. The yellow key is an easter egg, which can be used to gain access to all the boots and keys in the top left corner of a map. It was intentional, but not required.

#49 (Heavenly Challenges) - Nothing wrong with this one. Having the water in the blue wall maze is nice, and that area isn't too large to begin with either to be annoying. Some decent puzzles as well. Thumbs up from me :-)

It was my "Nuts And Bolts" equivalent. It's ok and not too hard. Could work in CCLP1 I guess.

#51 (The Church) - And we're back to long corridors with item swapping. If it was just the concepts of the glider section with the block and the fireball section at the end, I might like this level a lot. As it is, there's a lot of walking inbetween actually doing something.

I really like this one. The atmosphere is great and there's some exploring and cool concepts and dodging involved throughout the level. One of my favourites.

#52 (The Village) - slightly unequal, as you can put the block on the trap and then go free it by pressing the button yourself (the block slapping over fire has no effect). Not a terrible level, but would like to see better ones in CCLP1 unfortunately.

I'll fix that in the next update.

#53 (Route 101) - Yeah, this was nice, though I did like the next one more.

It's good, but I wonder if it might be too hard for CCLP1.

#54 (Route 280) - It's hard to say how difficult this level is, as in ms you can boost backwards to stop yourself and see what's ahead, while in lynx you can pause the game to do the same. Of course if you have good reflexes you can just go through flying! But can newish players do any of those, I wonder?

It's obviously harder than the first highway level, but I also wonder if it would be better for CCLP4 than CCLP1. It would have to be a late level I think.

#59 (It's a Trap) - It was too hard to keep running around and avoid the teeth, while it was too easy to just go back and forth in the teleports. And, despite the name, there is no trap in the level ;-)

The trap is the Teeth and you use the Teleports to survive the level. I think it could fit in as an early/mid CCLP1 level.

#60 (City Escape) - Too chaotic for my tastes. (didn't complete)

It's a bit on the long side, but the concept is great I think. Going untimed was the best option.

#61 (Ladder to Heaven) - I liked this one. What if it was enough to just go up on one side?

Not sure what you mean. One side of the ladder, or just half the chips?

#62 (Boingy Balls) - Enjoyed this. The right amount of dodging with a couple places that made me think a bit. A nice touch with the exit being far from the socket; it felt right this time.

Agreed. The second version is alot better.

#63 (Boingy Balls II) - I enjoyed this maybe even more, but it is quite hard for new players. Didn't like the end that required me to think too fast (getting the last chip from the cloning room). Why not just make this part simpler and clearer, since the whole level is already quite complex? (Like having several traps there that a single ball would open in turn or something else more managable than what it is now.)

The last chip could consider to be a bit iffy, but I think you can see where the pink ball is going to go. I'll recheck it and evaluate if it's guesswork.

#64 (If You only Knew) - I like to play without a map as much as possible, and this just isn't a level I would ever like.

It's not as hard as "TOTALLY UNFAIR", but fair enough. The inside cage part is quite fun though.

#65 (The Labyrinth) - Technically, a labyrinth has only a single path through as opposed to a maze. Didn't like guessing which red door to open. Maybe someone smarter than me could've observed on the ice slide and guessed that the red button activates a cloner or something, but that's asking a lot. At the very least I think the south-west teleport thing needs more room, as it usually kills you in lynx but not in ms when you don't step off.

I haven't tried this one in Lynx yet. I can see that teleporter being a problem, and the red door might be guesswork, but you can see it earlier on.

#68 (Ice Trip) - As the last level I really played, I was happy to end on a high note. This is a nice mixture of movement and chip collecting with a bit of key, button, and footwear action. Not all levels with these ingredients work, but this one does. Maybe it's about not being in confined spaces, or stupidly killing myself at every turn, or just the simplicity of it all, but I like this level for what it is.

It's a nice, simple easy level which I feel fits the bill for CCLP1 very well. I like it for the same reasons as you too.

#70 (Final Destination) - You wouldn't seriously want to see this in CCLP1, would you?

No comment.

Anyway, I hope I wasn't too negative on my comments M11K4. I admit, I was tired writing this and it took me a few good hours responding back, but thanks for the comments. It was interesting to see which levels you liked and disliked, and some surprised me. I hope you play the others and give me more feedback.

[KeyboardWielder]

#5 (Rainbow Door Key) - ...

... it's supposed to be trial and error hence the untimed clock. It almost got into CCLP3, so people must like it for some reason.

I'm guessing it fared well in CCLP3 for the same reason as "Which One Next?", namely, competitive players thought of it as an optimization challenge (which I fail to see the point of if the optimal route was soon computed using a TSP solver, but that is a different topic). Which means that it might not fare the same in CCLP1 since you changed the clock to be untimed.

#9 (Green clear) - ok, so I like this more than Toggle Bust, but it's so similar that I still wouldn't want to see it in CCLP1. But it was nice otherwise.

IMO, other than the toggle walls, this level bears no similarity to Toggle Bust whatsoever.

#11 (Locked up) - ...

... There's no twist here! ...

Surely, that's not necessary / always wanted in CCLP1, is it? ... Is it??



- Madhav.