For all CC Zone members, as we have had some issues with voting this month due to site errors and vote backups at inconvenient times for some members, the CCLP1 Staff has decided to allow votes to be submitted by Private Message through CC Zone if required. Just log into your account and send the votes you want using this link below:

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Please note however, that any submitted or changed votes posted past 1st January 2014 12:00am GMT will not be counted,

Sorry I had no time to vote for CCLP1 this year guys but Santa still wishes you all a Merry Christmas!

This is the official topic for my newest levelset available here on the CCZone forums, ZK3: Damnation.

This is the first of a two-part set, which contains forty new levels.

Click here to download ZK3: Damnation:

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Thoughts, ideas, unsolvable/busted levels, or feedback - anything and everything is appreciated. Thanks guys, and happy holidays!

File category: CC1 Levelsets

This is the first set of forty levels of my third (two-part) levelset, ZK3. In the winter of 2017 this levelset was revamped to improve overall level quality and become much more pleasing to play. This levelset in particular was originally designed to be very difficult and unforgiving, and while that is still a trait of the new version, the remake's difficulty has been adjusted to provide a more enjoyable and fun experience for all.

Level 40 (and to an extent, 39) is still available as an "uber-difficult" challenge for anyone to attempt. Good luck!

If you wish to play the original version, it can be found under the oldest version below. It may have some unresolved issues!

Confirmed solvable? Yes

Attached Files

  ZK3.dat (Size: 30.51 KB / Downloads: 542)

To all CC Zone members, this is now the last full week of CCLP1 voting left before we hit the deadline. The voting polls this month have been quite a bit iffy with errors preventing all of us to vote occasionally which is out of my control, but fear not! All votes have been backed up on a regular basis in case something unexpected happens to the site before the deadline. Have a good Christmas everyone!

Since it seems to be The Thing To Do right now, and because I love finding out what people like, I have decided to start my own Hurt and Heal thread for my levelset, Pit of 100 Tiles!

Rules: Each level starts with 6HP. In each post, you must deal 2 damage (spread over 1 or 2 levels) and heal 1 other level 1HP. A level dies (is eliminated) when its HP hits 0. Re-post the level list (with updated HP values) with your votes. There must be at least 2 posts by other people between each of your votes. Exception: if a set ends, you can vote on the next set immediately.

We will play with 10 levels at a time. When only 1 level is left in a set, that level will go on to play in the final round and the game will continue to the next set of 10 levels. (If you eliminate the 2nd-to-last level from a set, please go ahead and make the next list of 10 levels.)

Explaining the reasons behind your votes is optional, but encouraged. Opinions are welcome; arguments are not.

Have fun!

Level Elimination Order, for the curious: (closer to the top=eliminated sooner)

Set 1:

decided to write a blog because I have nothing better to do.

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When I was a kid (~10 years old) I had a gameboy color and my favorite console game was Mario. I played a few other games like Zelda but Mario was the only game I finished then. I often sat for hours at a time playing the same levels over and over; because the game is difficult. Later when I got very good at the game and played with friends or watched the game on youtube, I took for granted how difficult the game really is. If you play it for the first time it's not that easy. Sure its easy at the beginning but the game quickly gets difficult. I found that years later, when I was older and hadn't played the game in a long time I was unable to get as far as I thought I would.

The attitudes of gamers has changed drastically since the early 90's. People don't want to play the same level 50 times over to get to the next stage anymore. Perhaps people aren't as easily entertained; either because they know that today with technology more variety is possible, or maybe it's something else. Whatever it is, I don't think that this is necessarily a good or a bad thing. It's just something that game designers need to keep in mind when they make games for today's player.

A Major thing that has changed; that I personally think is a very good thing; is freedom. A lot of games today have way more freedom then they did back then. For example some developers like Valve include a "developer console" in their games. With enough knowledge you can basically make your game do all kinds of things that the designers didn't intend. You can cheat, see parts of the map you normally couldn't or create custom levels. All of this may not sound real important but what it comes down to is: letting the player have more control. Getting more replay value in the game. And in the long term; having the player take a more active role in influencing game development. Bringing the gamer closer to the designer.

Now, one part of this freedom has been criticized by some gamers. And that is making games too easy. Often today there are difficulty settings or options that can potentially make the game extremely easy for a gamer. Yes, games are supposed to be a challenge. But this kind of freedom demands a responsibility on the player; to choose how he will play. Will he take the easy way out? Or challenge himself? This is a decision that I think IS ultimately the player's; no one else’s. Everybody's different. But I think there are a good number of gamers who still want a challenge and I don't see why they should let themselves be hindered by these sort of options in a game.

I personally, love the challenge, and even after beating a game or level a certain way, an easy way, I often go back to see if there was something I missed, or trying and overcome whatever more difficult challenges I skipped over the first time around.

I've heard people criticizing the rewind feature of Chuck's challenge. I haven't played the game yet but I can I understand their points and can agree; it makes the game too easy. But I think it's important to realize that it does so by temping the player to ABUSE the feature. Why I like this sort of feature is because it puts the player in control. It's a freedom for the player to choose how he plays the game. If he abuses a feature; that is his choice. In my personal case, I can imagine that if I'm playing a level that has an abundance of tough or irritating areas I would use the feature for a few times then simply give up and walk away. I think, if the rewind needs to be abused, it's not a good level. But I don't think it's a flaw in the game to allow this kind of playing.`

Similarly in any game like this, if such features are needed to a certain extreme, the game itself is bad; not the feature.

I recently tried playing Zelda 2, Adventure of Link which is a notoriously difficult game. A lot of fans love the difficulty of this game, and this style of game. But many of these gamers are those that grew up with the game; as I did with Mario and we spent hours doing the only thing we could; the only games that were available to us. Today this type of game seems really restrictive and totally inaccessible to some.

On the other side of the coin, there are games that are outright too easy or don't offer a proper challenge; or enforce the easy options to an annoying degree (I think of elements in modern 3D Zelda games that Zelda fans complain about; the guides like Navi)

In closing; I don't think we should be limited by our game. That fact that you can choose how you want to play your game, in my mind, is a very good thing. Well those are my shenanigans, as usual I could be a genius or a babbling idiot. That's for you to decide.

Being part of 2 communities of games where custom levels are shared has taught me that very, very often, you design a level with one thing in mind and often, another entirely different thing is observed by the player, and sometimes your own idea gets thrown by the way-side. ...But that's another blog....

...yeah...

Anyone know why it closed so suddenly?

Edit: 3 hours later, still no change